The Known Good Updated 25 Jul 2026
DeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 vs Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max ·DeepSeek vs Alibaba

DeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 vs Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max — head-to-head comparison

DeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 profile Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max profile All comparisons
DeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 — DeepSeek
Quality
#44 of 61
44based on 3 of 6 evaluations
Known Good Index
Speed
#280 of 316
20.9
Output tokens per second
Price
#105 of 340
$0.35
Blended per 1M tokens
In $0.20 · Out $0.80
Cache hit price
#10 of 206
$0.003
per 1M tokens (−99%)
Context
#225 of 345
164k
tokens (~300 pages)
Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max — Alibaba
Quality
#5 of 61
93based on 3 of 6 evaluations
Known Good Index
Speed
#205 of 316
40.0
Output tokens per second
Price
#243 of 340
$2.21
Blended per 1M tokens
In $1.48 · Out $4.42
Cache hit price
#164 of 206
$0.29
per 1M tokens (−80%)
Context
#84 of 345
1.00M
tokens (~1,500 pages)
Summary

On the Known Good Index, DeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 scores 44 and Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max scores 93 — a 49-point lead for Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max. They share 2 published evaluations, with DeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 ahead on 0 and Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max ahead on 2.

Blended pricing is $0.35 per 1M tokens for DeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 and $2.21 for Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max — DeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 is about 6.3× cheaper.

Throughput is 21 tokens per second for DeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 and 40 for Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max, with time to first token at 1.1s and 1.4s. DeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 accepts 164k tokens of context against 1.00M.

DeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 is open weights under Open weights (restricted use); Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max is proprietary. 4 tracked hosts serve one or both.

Generated from tracked data on 25 Jul 2026 · how these comparisons are computed →

At a glance
MetricDeepSeek: DeepSeek V3Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max
Known Good Index 44 based on 3 of 6 evaluations 93 based on 3 of 6 evaluations
Blended $/1M $0.35 $2.21
Output tok/s 21 40
Context window 164k 1.00M
Providers 3 1
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Quality

Known Good Index and the capability indices, side by side

IndicesComponents
Index scores

Each index is min-max normalised across tracked models and scaled 0–100 from published evaluations. We do not run these evaluations.

MetricDeepSeek: DeepSeek V3Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max
Known Good Index 44 93
Mathematics Index 40 95
Science Index 53 96
Reasoning Index 52 —
Agentic Index — 88
Openness Index 60 5
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Quality Breakdown

Every evaluation both models report a published score for

Evaluations both models report

Bar = DeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 · marker = Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max · scores ingested from Epoch AI (CC-BY 4.0)

GPQA Diamond57 / 92
MATH / AIME16 / 95

Right-hand figures read DeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 / Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max. DeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 leads on 0 of 2, Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max on 2.

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Arena Elo

Human preference rating from blind pairwise votes

Arena ratings

Elo from blind pairwise votes, ingested from Arena. Higher is better.

MetricDeepSeek: DeepSeek V3Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max
Text Arena 1,333 —
Text Arena (style controlled) 1,358 —
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Price & Cost

Published API pricing by token type

Per token typeCache discount
Published pricing

USD per 1M tokens. Blended is a 3:1 input:output mix. Live from OpenRouter, cross-checked against models.dev. Lower is better.

MetricDeepSeek: DeepSeek V3Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max
Input $/1M $0.20 $1.48
Output $/1M $0.80 $4.42
Blended $/1M $0.35 $2.21
Cache read $/1M $0.003 $0.295
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We publish blended price rather than cost-per-task. Cost-per-task requires token counts from an evaluation suite we do not run. Blended price is computed from published rates and is fully reproducible — see the pricing methodology.

Context Window

Maximum input accepted and maximum output emitted

Context and output limits

Provider-declared limits, from metadata via models.dev and OpenRouter. Higher is better.

MetricDeepSeek: DeepSeek V3Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max
Context window 164k 1.00M
Max output tokens 16k 66k
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Speed & Latency

Median throughput and time to first token across hosting providers

Output speedTime to first token
Throughput and latency

Medians across all tracked providers, derived from OpenRouter endpoint telemetry.

MetricDeepSeek: DeepSeek V3Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max
Output tokens/s 21 40
Time to first token 1.1s 1.4s
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Providers

Which hosts serve each model, and at what price and speed

4 hosts
Full provider benchmarks →
Provider DeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 blendedDeepSeek: DeepSeek V3 tok/s Qwen: Qwen3.7 Max blendedQwen: Qwen3.7 Max tok/s
StreamLake $0.35 24 — —
DeepInfra $0.46 20 — —
Novita $0.62 14 — —
Alibaba · first party — — $2.21 44

Per-host pricing and telemetry from OpenRouter. A dash means that host does not serve that model.

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Pricing & providers — OpenRouter Metadata — models.dev Benchmarks — Epoch AI (CC-BY 4.0)Elo — Arena Full attribution →